See You On The Other Side

55 | Shoot the Shit with Us

July 17, 2023 Leah & Christine Season 2 Episode 55
See You On The Other Side
55 | Shoot the Shit with Us
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Join us as we shoot the shit and completely forget what we were supposed to be recording in the first place!  A first ever completely unplanned, raw and random AF episode where we literally just catch up after going 2 weeks without recording or seeing each other.  We promise laughing, NO TEARS from Leah, a few 'aha' realizations and many relatable moments.

Ever wondered how your childhood experiences can shape the way you choose to express yourself through your clothing? You're not alone! Join us as we open the vaults of our personal style journeys, navigating the intricate connections between past experiences, wardrobe choices, and spending habits. We'll share how our upbringing has influenced our attachment to clothes and material possessions, and reveal the sometimes tender, sometimes amusing struggle of letting go of items that hold a special place in our hearts.

Now, let's talk boundaries. How can setting limits impact your relationships and interactions with others, and why is it so important for self-protection? Hear our personal takes on boundary setting, how our styles differ, and the impact of living amid drama. We promise, you'll come away with fresh insights and maybe even some new strategies for protecting your energy.

Moving on to a more sobering topic, we tackle our experiences with substance use. We share candidly about the effects of alcohol on our lives and ponder on its potential connection to trauma. How weed affects us both very differently.  One as a medicine, and the other as a switch to shut down.

And how is this for a new closing catchphrase?!
'Stay curious and we'll see you on the other side!'

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Speaker 1:

I decided I'm gonna start. I know like you feel weird about like wearing shoes and houses.

Speaker 2:

You wanna start wearing shoes.

Speaker 1:

I am such a like a sneaker head and I have so many sneakers that I never get to fucking wear. Wear them, because I would never wear my good ones to the gym and I would never wear my good ones to work, so they just sit up in my closet and they don't get worn. So what's the point, right?

Speaker 2:

So I'm gonna wear them. You're just obsessed with sneakers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, you know what I think it is, what this is no shade and it's no. It's just another thing that I can like relate back to my childhood, but like we couldn't afford nice things and I was the kid on the angel tree Like my family, my sisters and I were always the kids on the angel tree and I never got to pick things out Like so I would totally get it. Go and have to open these presents in a church in front of people, and it would be like Walmart tennis shoes, walmart jeans, walmart t-shirts Again, nothing wrong with it. Like I'll still fucking shop at Walmart, absolutely, but like I didn't get to choose anything.

Speaker 2:

And I relate to this because also grew up super poor and one that's why I like am so OCD with like hygiene kind of things and like I'm super OCD with like brushing my teeth you know this using clean makeup sponges, like specific, like very anal about random things that most people don't even know. That would be anal about my underwear, like all this stuff. Like even like I have to like I love matching pajamas, you do.

Speaker 1:

I like.

Speaker 2:

I love pajamas.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't have a pajama party with you.

Speaker 2:

I would love that I saw this TikTok where it was like embracing, like loving, matching pajamas, and it was just her and all these different mornings and her wearing all of these different pajamas sets, and I was like, oh my God, I need to do that.

Speaker 1:

What if we, when we do our thing with Lindsay, we do a pajama themed? I love girls night.

Speaker 2:

Like girls night in.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, we need to message her. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

But the other thing is I never got to really like express myself with clothes. I'm not a bit as big of a shoe person as you but for me, like I love shopping and I love like neon and bright colors and like things that are kind of happy, happy and statement pieces, because I feel like they are ways that I can express myself. I think that fashion can be art. Yeah, and very creative. Yeah, did you know? My nickname used to be cuppy.

Speaker 1:

I feel like you've told me this, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I worked at a kid's weight loss camp and the campers were like you're always wearing like yellow and neon and like bright pink and whatever, and they're like you literally remind us of a cupcake, like different colors of cupcakes, and so then that turned into cuppy.

Speaker 1:

You're bright and colorful. Love that, but I also have a very hard problem getting rid of shoes. So that's the thing.

Speaker 2:

You have a problem getting rid of a lot of things, can I?

Speaker 1:

tell you. So my mom was here last week, was at my house for a few days, and it's fine. I just needed to decompress a little bit, I get it. But when she got home she's moving. She sent me a photo of the first baby bottle I ever used in the hospital and it was molded and disgusting and she said it's a little old, but I kept this from when you were born and there's a note with it that says, like the day I was born, the hospital that it was from, like that it was my baby bottle and I'm like that's where I get it. I have a very hard time letting go of things because I attach some sort of value, sentimental value, to everything. Wow, it's very, it's very. Earlier you were talking about how you like would throw ex-boyfriend stuff away immediately, if you like found out they cheated on you, do you know? I used to have a box, probably up until like maybe five or six years ago, of things from an ex-boyfriend. What the fuck.

Speaker 2:

And we're so different in that one.

Speaker 1:

I had such a I would go through it sometimes. Be like I should probably get rid of this shit. Like he's married, I'm married, like y'all have kids. This shit's done, it's been done for like 20 years. But like I've got this box of like fucking football jerseys that he gave me letters cards I couldn't bring myself to get rid of it. Wow, and I don't know why I did. I eventually did, but I have to like be in a mindset of like I don't want this anymore.

Speaker 2:

Leah, I don't need it, I don't want it, and it's hard for me to get into that mindset Interesting because I've literally been married and divorced and like when I got divorced I was like canvas from our wedding dumpster Shut up Wedding album Fucking scratch it. Wow, like I'm like you don't exist.

Speaker 1:

That's why, when you were saying that, my eyes were like I kept everything, but you know what.

Speaker 2:

But the other thing too is my mom didn't necessarily put like sentimental, like feelings on things, so like for her, like me going away to college. It wasn't sad for her, it was more she made me feel like, oh, I can't wait for you to just get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. And so it like my mom tried to hold on to us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so that it honestly really hurt my feelings and very much so hurt my feelings, and she doesn't like, she's not sentimental, she's not very affectionate, she's not very like, she's not going to be like, oh my gosh, I love you so much, I'm so proud of everything you're doing. Like I'm not going to so there, like it was, that was like the hard thing is for it for me to tap into, like sentimental and vulnerable and because it was like ingrained in me like tough, I don't care, that kind of mentality, I think there needs to be a balance.

Speaker 1:

I'm just totally, totally sometimes tiptoe on one end more than I do. The other end it's. And there's also and I don't know if you feel this way I've heard it from people before like when you grew up with nothing and then you get to a place in your life where you can afford things. I want to get rid of that.

Speaker 2:

I paid for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've worked for that. Yeah, I paid for it. It was something I wanted and I like saved our money to get it. Why would I get rid of it? Yeah, I have like fucking coach purses in my closet that I haven't used in 15 years, that I won't get rid of because I'm like you know, 30 years ago I wouldn't have even been able to afford that, right, you know? Yeah, so it's really really hard for me. Are we just shooting the shit right now?

Speaker 2:

Kind of, and I I'm okay with that. No, I see what you're saying, though, because I don't necessarily have a hard time getting rid of it, but if I buy something, I'm going to use the shit out of it, so like, if I buy a shirt, I'm not going to leave it in my closet, I'm going to fucking wear it to the ground.

Speaker 1:

So okay, this is. I think we're just shooting the shit right now.

Speaker 2:

Honestly.

Speaker 1:

I'm okay with this. I am too. I have a dress closet. I know Dresses that still have tags that I could never.

Speaker 2:

I could never.

Speaker 1:

And my husband gets so mad that I won't get rid of them and I won't sell them. But you know what I say I haven't worn yet. I haven't worn yet.

Speaker 2:

Okay, when the fuck are you going to wear?

Speaker 1:

it. That's kind of the thing. I'm like waiting for an occasion to wear them because I don't do anything that. So okay, let me give you an example. We went on vacation a couple of years ago as a family. We went to Punta Cana as a family and I packed nothing but like nice summer dresses to go out to dinner in, and I packed little cute little dresses for Elle to wear to dinner and the kids nice clothes to wear to dinner, like to resort and all inclusive resort. And my husband literally packs like jeans and T-shirts and flip flops not jeans, shorts and T-shirts, like comfy shorts, not even khaki shorts oh, that's funny Like sweat shorts. And I was so angry because I'm like I have been waiting for an occasion to wear these dresses.

Speaker 2:

And I don't get to wear them.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to wear them. If you're like literally going out wearing like your everyday gym shorts and a T-shirt.

Speaker 2:

I would have worn them anyways.

Speaker 1:

This was like two years ago oh actually it was like three years ago. Leah now would wear them. Leah, now would wear them, because I have been doing a lot more of like I'm going to wear what I want to wear, regardless of what other people are wearing. But yeah, no, I never have an occasion to wear them too. So I have a very. I feel like if I did, if I wore the shit out of them, I would be able to get rid of them, because I'd be like I already weren't.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I got. Maybe that's why I got the money. Maybe that's why I got the use out of it.

Speaker 2:

Maybe that's why I can like be like yeah, after a year, what's that? One show Marie Kondo, yes, where she's like, where it's like if you have not worn it or used it after a year, it probably should go.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, my entire closet would be gone, but also since. Covid, there really hasn't been like I don't, I didn't dress up for work anymore. I used to dress up for work a lot. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 2:

And I stopped and I remember you would always like post like a solid decade ago. Like oh my God, look at me in this. Like these pink boots and my cute little hair. Taking my full body selfie. I remember a lot of things. I literally I'm really good with random shit. You are. Like I didn't always wear leggings and t-shirts, oversized, no you would like dress super cute and like curl your hair and make up your lash extensions and lash extension yeah, that was my goal, yeah, was to like look like you, not look like you, but like Did.

Speaker 1:

I look at together.

Speaker 2:

Yes, have lashes, have the brows.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about that though.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I was falling apart.

Speaker 2:

I know, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:

I know, nobody knew that.

Speaker 2:

Right, I just saw the surface level. It was from the outside. It was the thing that I could make look good when everything else was falling apart, and what's funny is like I was like going through a divorce and my life was falling apart and people knew was falling apart, so I was like man Lea.

Speaker 1:

Man, it's fucking why I feel like if people saw me now, the way that I've been dressing for work, in the way that I go to the grocery store, would be like that bitch is going through some shit, and I'd be like, actually, no, I'm going, I'm really, I'm really good.

Speaker 2:

I just don't give a fuck. I'm honestly just vibing in my Nirvana oversized t-shirt.

Speaker 1:

Right which.

Speaker 2:

My husband thinks that they are so sexy.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say. I was just going to say he's never been more turned on. My husband hates them, hates that. This is like that I wear oversized t-shirt, hates it so much. And we did a TikTok a few weeks ago where I was like standing up and moving wearing an oversized t-shirt and when we played it back I was like that's what that looks like, do you remember? I was like you know, they're not so flattering when you're standing up, moving around.

Speaker 2:

I think they're still flattering. I don't think I can, I don't think I look as good in them as you do, but I think they're just sitting down it's.

Speaker 1:

It's not that unflattering, but standing up it's like I'm, it's like the adult version of a movement.

Speaker 2:

Which I have so many moos. Did you know that I literally have so many moos? I have like 10.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I could ever do a moo moo, because that's what my mom wears.

Speaker 2:

It's a Marshallese thing. Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Super Marshall, that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Like it's a little too Marshallese for me, so like I struggle with it a little bit because it's like women will wear it all day every day and I'm like it's just like they're go to like to like. I mean they're comfortable. They are, but I like expressing myself with clothes, hence the mushroom trigger hat and the bright tank top. And you can't, I'm not wearing them. My like neon tennis shoes you should start wearing them.

Speaker 1:

That's what I expressed myself through my shoes.

Speaker 2:

But then people are going to see how much bigger your feet are than mine.

Speaker 1:

And my feet are normal. They're normal sized feet.

Speaker 2:

You just have like man, at least got some shack feet.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God. No, you're just like. You just got little island feet, oh my God. Okay, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2:

We haven't seen each other in like two weeks.

Speaker 1:

I do feel like maybe we could talk about like the differences let's do that in us and the way that we grew up, because growing up like for me and this is interesting like growing up on welfare, growing up like paycheck to paycheck with with needs not being met, basic necessities, being like a struggle, you would think that I would be better with money than I am because I had no other people who are like so tight with their money because they grew up poor. Right, I have no sense of finances, none Well, and it just struggle for me.

Speaker 2:

But you also have a husband who kind of takes that role on.

Speaker 1:

He's very good with it.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

He's very, very good with numbers and finances and budgeting and people, like when I tell them I get an allowance, are like, their eyes are like what the fuck that's controlling? And I'm like, no, it's actually not, I need one, I need to be put on a budget because I see numbers and I'm like we're good. I don't see numbers going out and I also feel like, because of the way I grew up and we were always fine, we were okay. I'm like my parents had three kids and they fucking struggled and we we didn't have things, but we were okay, right, you know, we had more than some, right, we were fed, right, but so I see it as like we'll be fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're good and he's like no, I'm the one who balances the spreadsheets and you need to tone your shit down, Leah, Right so?

Speaker 1:

but it's just interesting, because the way that I grew up made me that way. What about you?

Speaker 2:

So I am. I am also somebody who and this is probably like the ADHD to like I will hyper fixate on things Like close. I could spend hours like wanting something specific and looking for hours on end and then, three hours later, I don't buy a damn thing.

Speaker 1:

Huh, when you do find something.

Speaker 2:

So when I do find something, I wear the fuck out of it Like it means a lot to me and it means a lot to me that I'll use it.

Speaker 1:

I love that a lot, I love that yeah.

Speaker 2:

So like when we got those that like pajama set, like your unicorn, my neon pink, I'm like I could wear that every time I record. That's why.

Speaker 1:

I texted you that one day I am. So the opposite of that. I know I don't like wearing the same thing twice. No, like I really don't like.

Speaker 2:

I just got this tank top when we're in Florida and I love it and I could wear it multiple days a week, shut up, and I don't care, I'll wash it though, trust me, I'm not looking at you in judgment.

Speaker 1:

I'm just like this is interesting because we are so different in that way too.

Speaker 2:

But we both grew up like I grew up totally a single mom, not an involved dad, did not pay child support. My mom, you know, was a social worker. She did not make very much money. I was the youngest of six kids and she brought some of my brothers and sisters who weren't biologically hers to the US Like we like did not have money, she worked multiple. She never not worked multiple jobs, she always had two to three jobs, always that was like the norm. She wasn't home very much and so it's almost like if I use something like I have to like get it's where I've heard that before, on maybe somebody is like you know, I don't really spend a lot.

Speaker 1:

There are things that I spend money on. Then there are things that I'm like like my purses are from fucking Target now, like I could give two shits about like a designer purse. But like if there's a purse I like I don't care what the brand is, same, I want it, same, and so I. But like, as far as money goes, like that's not where my money goes. My money goes into shoes and my money doesn't go into shoes. And not accessories, because I don't really I'm not an accessory person either. Like. My jewelry is simple. I wear studs. I wear the same two necklaces every day. I'm not I don't spend my money on those things because they don't bring me joy, I guess. But I'm having this like my husband will wear things because they're comfortable and I don't think it's because, like well, I spent money on I'm going to wear it. Like he'll wear things for comfort and he wears them so often that, like, sometimes he'll find something and if he's like this is super comfortable because he has, like sensory issues, He'll buy multiple of them. So there was one he always wears like a Sriracha t-shirt and camo shorts. I know exactly what outfit you're talking about. Because he wears it all the time I know. Or those like gray shorts he's wearing right now. He is about to be 45. For his 40th birthday, we had a surprise costume party and someone came dressed as him in camo shorts and a Sriracha t-shirt.

Speaker 2:

Like swear to God. Was that that party that you dressed up as the? Who did you dress up as?

Speaker 1:

Jim.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And he was like riff-riff.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, so, but that's like his go-to because it's so comfortable. And I had a friend one time. She was like he always has that Sriracha shirt on and I was like he has two of the same shirt.

Speaker 2:

Like there's two of them. You know what's funny? You invited me to that party. I did Mm-hmm, I didn't go, obviously.

Speaker 1:

Shut up. Uh-huh, I feel like I did do, but it didn't bother me that you didn't come, because I was like, hey, listen this is his birthday party.

Speaker 2:

I hope it didn't.

Speaker 1:

Like I know you don't know, jason, but like yeah, no, I didn't go.

Speaker 2:

I didn't go because it was like I'm very much so like that person who I'm like, oh yeah, okay, I'll go, and then the day comes I'm like totally not going, no.

Speaker 1:

I don't blame you for that, because it's not your social circle, and I still like that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, and it's not personal? No At all.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, we're going to talk about that. Okay, what we really are just doing a shoot the shit right now.

Speaker 2:

Let's do it, and I am totally fine with it. We haven't seen each other in a long time, so let's just do that.

Speaker 1:

We should do this. Every time we don't see each other for a long time, just sit here and shoot the shit. I like that actually. Yeah, I like that a lot. Instead of catching up beforehand. So we had some friends over a couple weeks ago. I hadn't seen him in a very long time and this came up in the conversation. So you and I both have talked about being empaths and how people are drawn to us and sometimes I don't know how to turn that off. I agree, and it's wild when you see it in person because like, even like I'll be at it, I'll be at a fucking gas station and somebody will start talking to me about like their daughter who passed away, and like somebody who ever switched me is like what the fuck?

Speaker 2:

And I'm like I didn't say anything, and what's funny is like Jason and Tony, like they both are very much like holy shit, how, like? How does this happen? Right, this happened because I this happened to me when I was just in Florida, literally literally, babe, it happens when I'm not trying. Yeah, same Like we were literally checking out at Kroger.

Speaker 1:

The other day, like checking out at Kroger and the cashier is telling me how she just broke up with her boyfriend and moved to another city. And da, da, da, da, da. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, and Jason, my husband's just like you literally did nothing and I'm like I fucking know it's wild. So the reason this conversation came up is because I have been really working to set invisible boundaries with people. Do you know what those are?

Speaker 2:

Boundaries that maybe they don't necessarily know are happening, but you're doing it for you, yeah, yeah, like you're not like having a conversation saying, okay, this is my boundary, right, you just do it Right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and one of those is to stop being so open in front of people, and you know what that looks like. It looks like being a bitch, yeah, and I struggled with that a lot. I really do, and I'll give a few examples. You know, my daughter is in gymnastics and yeah, we've talked about this. Yes, there is one other mom in this group that I talked to and it's because she was a client and we're friends. I don't know any of the other moms names. I don't know their daughter's names, and it's not because I'm a bitch, it is because I know that if I give an inch I'm going to get a mile and I don't know how to tell people no. So it's like for me, it's for me, it's not. It has nothing to do with the other person. It's not because I don't like them, it's really because I know that I give too much and I'm not going to be able to stop. So I come across as the bitch Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I think I may not, but I feel like you are literally that meme where it's like I'm in my villain era and that you. Being your villain is just like sticking up for yourself and like it's not really a villain.

Speaker 1:

Well, so that's why this conversation. He's like well, you know, well, why are you the bitch? To these people. I was like I don't, I don't know if I am the bitch, but to me it feels like that because I'm I'm emotionally shutting myself off around them. I will wave, I will say hi and I will smile, but that is all I can emotionally give, because if I give any more than that, I know how people are with me and it's not a flex. That's not what I mean by that. Right, I do it with my neighborhood too. I do too. I met someone at the pool yesterday who's like oh, you live on such and such street and I was like, yeah, she's like we're like the third house down. We see you at the bus stop every day. And I was like, oh, how long have you lived there? 10 years. And I felt like I had to be very apologetic. No, you don't, because I'm like. You know, I'm not. I don't really socialize with a lot of people. I don't really know our neighbors in that way, like I really don't. I'm not big on like socializing and I apologize for not knowing your name before. She literally lives three houses down and I just feel like such a bitch. But that's what I like, those invisible boundaries, like I know that the people in our neighborhood are like those people up there who never socialize, who like stay to themselves Like we do. But it's not because I'm a bitch, it's really just because I'm like protecting myself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Does that make any sense? Absolutely, but I'm actually. I'm a little different than you right now, and I'll explain why.

Speaker 1:

OK.

Speaker 2:

So when I had the gym, I talked to people all day, every day, and I usually talked to the same people multiple times a week. Especially with one-on-one personal training, I would see the same person at least two or three times a week and obviously it was all about them and whatnot, and so whenever Tony and I I was I've never been open into like the neighborhood shit, Because not every neighborhood, but in my neighborhood it seems like there is a lot of gossip and oh, I have a story I'm going to go into it.

Speaker 1:

Oh OK.

Speaker 2:

OK, so Tony and I my fans and I we built our house and when we were building and it was just getting framed up, we went to go see it one evening and when we pulled up, a bunch of our neighbors were like just walking through the house and like trying to like look at it and see what room was, what not. And I remember like leaning back and me like, oh, I just want to see the house. And now I have to talk to fucking new people and like introduce myself and like be that friendly neighbor, yada, yada, yada. And so we introduce ourselves and there's this one woman and she is married but she doesn't have any kids. Her husband's in the military and he's always gone and she was a gossip fucking queen. So she was like this neighbor is cheating on his wife. This neighbor is an alcoholic. This neighbor is doing this, this neighbor is doing that, this neighbor is doing this, damn. And so she immediately turned me off because I like to keep to myself. I don't care if people think I'm a bitch. Like it's my house, I can do whatever the hell I want. I don't have to talk to people and so that immediately turned off, turned me off and right away she's like what's your number? And again I'm going to reiterate this was pretty much from Christine, ok.

Speaker 1:

Were you a little spicy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I was like OK, and I gave her my number because I felt very on the spot and I'm very on the spot. So I gave her my number and I, tony and I get in the car and I said I immediately regret this because she rubbed me wrong first minute, like I do not want to talk to her, I don't want her to know our business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fast forward a few weeks later so more advancements get made on the house and our house is not a typical Louisville Kentucky house. I would compare it to maybe a California type vibe Very modern, very modern, and we have white and it's like white and black and there is a low roof, roof pitch OK. So it's kind of like doesn't have like the high roof has a modern look and architects drew it up.

Speaker 1:

It does not look like any other house in your neighborhood.

Speaker 2:

It does not, it does stick out like a sore thumb, I do, and I think that rubbed people the wrong way, including this woman. She texts me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, because she has your number now.

Speaker 2:

Because she has my fucking number now and she said something like hey, christine, so the neighbors and I were just talking and that roof pitch, it's looking a little low, and so we didn't know if it got approved or not. So if it hasn't, I think some neighbors are going to call the Neighborhood Association on you. I just wanted you to be aware. Shut up, swear to God, and so very much. So I was a fuck around and find out. Like don't start, none Won't be none. And so I called Tony and I'm like I'm very annoyed that one, she even thinks that it's her business. Two, she's just plainly stating that people are talking, talking, it feels gossipy. And I said, can I unleash? And he goes do you unleash the beast? Do what you got to do babe, but he goes OK. so then you are aware that she is going to tell other people and then we may not be friends with people in her neighborhood. I'm like, fuck it, got it Still. Ok with the decision.

Speaker 1:

So I texted her back. I love pre-mushroom, pre-mushroom she was a hood rat.

Speaker 2:

So I texted her back and I was like, wow, I go. We haven't even moved into the neighborhood and you guys are doing a really great job of making us feel so welcome, I go. But if you must know not that it's any of your business, anyways, it has been approved. I highly suggest that you mind your own business, because I'm not the one. So feel free to go back and tell all of your little neighbor friends that you all can suck my big, fat donkey dick, Christine.

Speaker 1:

And now she's your best friend.

Speaker 2:

No, the second we moved in, homegirl brought some wine and some treats for my dogs and some chocolates for me and I was like I appreciate that, but just know, I'm not the one.

Speaker 1:

I'm not the one. Oh my god, oh my god, like I wish, I wish.

Speaker 2:

You know again, I don't recommend doing that, but there is this kind of like, piece of like. I'm not going to start it with you, but if you start it with me, I'm going to tell you what the fuck's up.

Speaker 1:

I just I am.

Speaker 2:

I don't go that like. I don't tell people to suck my big fat donkey dick anymore, but but but like anyways. So I was going somewhere with this and I remember where I was going, the neighborhood. OK, so that. But when I had the gym I didn't want to talk to anybody. When we go on vacation, don't eat, like I did. Have kind of that bitch like don't, don't talk to me. Our neighborhood don't talk to me. Now, because I'm at a much more peaceful place in my life, I am actually more open to new people talking to me because I don't feel drained, and so what's interesting is usually Tony. When we go out on vacation, tony is the one who's talking to everyone and they're freaking dog and I'm like get me out of here and I just walk away. I don't want to be a part of it. Now, this last vacation that we went on, there were multiple situations. I think there were three where I talked to random people and had very good, deep conversations with them, and one I was just in the water with Kai and this woman was on vacation by herself and we started talking and she was talking about she's got three boys and the things that she regrets as a mother and she's told them that she regrets, and it was just, she was just passing on generational trauma and she didn't even know it. But now, at the age that she's at, she realizes it and has taken accountability for it. But just these different and they were really beautiful conversations. I will never see them or talk to them again and I said to Tony. I said I don't know why these people are talking to me, but I am having these really good conversations. And he said I think you're more open and I think you're much more like. I have my home and I have my small group of people, but I don't have all of these people in my life who are sucking me dry. So I am not maybe the bitch to the stranger. I seem much more welcoming.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I think? It is what I think. That's part of it, ok For sure. Remember we've said before, your vibe attracts your tribe. Ah, I think it's more than just the friends that you are in close circles with, and I was having this conversation with someone this weekend where there's almost like this knowing of I can't do surface level conversations. Right, and I can't do that either, and I can tell when they're about to happen, and that's when I start to shut myself off to them.

Speaker 2:

But in a situation like school moms, dance moms.

Speaker 1:

Those are all going to. Most of the time those are going to be surface level conversations.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, a lot of times. There is going to maybe be a lot of gossip and drama and I can't fuck I don't even want to be part of it. Fuck with that, I don't even want to be part of it. So maybe I am having these random conversations with people, but they're really deep, beautiful conversations, because that's where I'm at, so that's what I'm attracting.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying, because I'm not. And when I say I'm becoming the bitch, I don't mean I am. I am just closing myself off to the things that no longer serve me, and it's energetically keeping them away from me. And so there are those few that poke through Sure when they're supposed to, where it's kind of that same like we align Right. Oh, my god, right. You're nothing like what I expect.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean and you were so over here and I was so on the opposite side, over here, and we're both coming to here.

Speaker 1:

But also you and I both had those careers where we talk to people all day, every day, and it was the same people all day, every day. It was monthly clients, bi-weekly clients, the same conversations, the same people, the same life situations.

Speaker 2:

And it's not a knock on them. It isn't, I cannot stress that enough, but it is, it's us, it's us, it's us.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know how to shut it off. Didn't know how to shut it off. But also I look at people like I don't want to say Tony, I don't want to say your fiancee, but my husband he's very good at compartmentalizing things and someone who would be I don't want to say annoying to me, but like someone who drains me or who is energetically sucking the life out of me. It doesn't do it to him because he was never attached anyway.

Speaker 2:

Well, and he's on an empath that and they're not going to go to him and be like, oh my gosh, I'm going through this and I'm going through that and I'm going through that Because he's not going to hold space for them.

Speaker 1:

No, because that's not the vibe he gives us, we do, we do, so I do. That also is going to lead into what I wanted to talk about today. Ok, we're not going to get into it in this episode. Oh, no way. No way, are we going to get into it? No, we needed to do this, though, but it is definitely going to go into the next episode, because the last episode that we dropped was about friendships and how to know when to let go of friendships, and I also I wanted to go more in depth into that, but from an empath lens. I love that, because you and I are speaking about things, and I remember this used to trigger my husband People asking for my number the first time they meet me. I'm a lot like you. I would be put on the spot and I would give them my number, and then I would ghost them, Because I'm like I want to give you my number the first place. You put me on the spot. What am I supposed?

Speaker 2:

to say my people pleasing is always like when I get aggressive is when you start being aggressive with me, and then I'll not only match it, I'll top it. Where I struggle is when someone is being really sweet, but they don't respect my boundaries at all. That's where I struggle to be mean, because I'm like but they're really sweet, right, what am I going to do? Kick this puppy, right, right, like I'll kick a Rottweiler, but not a puppy.

Speaker 1:

It's coming at me, I'm going to kick it so protect myself. But he would get so triggered because I remember coming home from a birthday party once and be like, oh my god, they've already got me in a group chat trying to hang out with me and he struggles to make friends. So he's like, oh, poor the uh, literally, literally, like I'm sorry, it's so hard for you to make friends.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I'm so sorry You're so popular. These aren't. These aren't friends Like and that's what I'm trying to say Like I don't even have time or energy to give to my friends.

Speaker 2:

Tony is very similar Because he's like you guys, like, oh, so many fucking people talking to you and all these friends here and friends Like you know, all these people is like, and I've got two friends.

Speaker 1:

I don't. I think that I envy that Same and I'm not saying I don't enjoy my connections with people, but there is this pressure within, like your core group of friends, to show up. And I think I just had a thought. I just had a thought, so I'm going to say it. I think, as an empath, you may think that you have like three people in your close circle, but there are probably 20 people who think they're in it. Boom, that's it Because you hold space the same way for those 20 people that you do for your two to three friends, because you're not changing for anybody. You're showing up the same way that you show up to everybody, and that's where I had to learn to stop showing up in a way that wasn't serving me and it's not selfish. I'm having this like realization, literally like right now as we're speaking, because how many? I'm going to take this back to earlier. You were saying, like you gave this girl your number. I think I told you about this, but back in 2020, I had a client who had only been seen twice, had just moved to town, new mom, unhappy in her marriage, didn't know anybody in town. I do her eyebrows twice, two times. She asked for my number and I gave it to her. Are you ready for?

Speaker 2:

this what? There's a woman that I used to train. Never hung out with her in a personal situation ever. She ended up getting divorced and then getting remarried and moving to Mississippi and she asked me to be a bridesmaid in her wedding in Mississippi.

Speaker 1:

Okay. There is an energetic imbalance in a lot of these situations, which is why I'm trying to make it balanced. Yes, I'm trying to balance the skill here. I cannot give you what you cannot give me, right, I can't. This happened right before COVID happened. So all through COVID, she's texting me, wanting to hang out Again. My business was closed for three months. I keep saying like I remember one time being like um, I don't know if you're aware, but there is a pandemic and nobody's allowed in my house right now. I'm not hanging out with anybody, right? But if I'm going to be hanging out with anybody, it's gonna be my family. It's gonna be my family and my friends, right? I didn't say that, I wanted to say that, but I was just like, yeah, no, nobody's hanging out right now. But this is where I was. I feel like I maybe told you this. I was as nice to her as I could be and it got to a point where she sent me this big long text telling me like I was a horrible friend and she was suicidal because I didn't talk to her and I didn't give her time and I was a horrible human being. Whoa, and I'm just sitting here like we were never friends. So you guys never hung out in a personal, never, never, never. I did her eyebrows two times, but that's what I mean Like. I'm like because those two times you opened up to me about your life and your struggles and I empathize with you and I cried with you when you were crying, literally on my table, getting your eyebrows done. I cried with you and because of that you attached to me in a way that I didn't reciprocate and it just threw me so far left into the left field that I was like I didn't know that you thought of me that way. But I am like that was not my intention. You know I'm sorry that you're going through that, but that's not because of me.

Speaker 2:

Right, and it's almost like she kind of used you as her scapegoat of, like I was going through something and you should like you didn't owe her that Right, you did not, I didn't even know you like that and you never committed to that.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

You never agreed to that. I think you were just being a kind human being, holding space for somebody who chose to open up.

Speaker 1:

But also because of that like and that's just like one example like I've been burned in situations like that before where I started to eventually like just stop, I stopped. I've changed my number twice. I will straight up tell people now, like I don't give out my personal number, I don't, I'm sorry, you know, like I can't do that. It's a struggle for me to say no and I hate saying no, but it has nothing to do with you, it really doesn't.

Speaker 2:

Well, and the hard thing is we live in a world now with our phones and social media and everything is so instant gratification, yeah, and we don't necessarily respect people's boundaries. So if someone, if someone texts me and I don't feel like responding back, it could be because I'm in the middle of something or I'm working and I forgot about it. And I love people who don't respect that yeah, they don't hold that against me and they respect it. Because I don't like I don't have to text you or call you back right away. I just don't like I don't have to justify that. But I feel like that's kind of like the world we live in, where that is expected, yeah, and so it's really hard to just sit back and be like no, you're with your family or you're eating dinner, you don't have to respond. I struggle with that. Respond when you feel like it?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think I struggle with that. I do the same thing. I don't like I will go silent mode. You know, with my family here last week, like for a full week, like I barely responded to texts. Yeah, we barely talk.

Speaker 2:

You knew that and you are aware of that, and you respect that, but I don't take it personal Because I'm like out doing my own thing too and I'm like this isn't about me. She has family in town, yeah, but sometimes it's hard for people to, and I feel like sometimes people have this expectation of us of how we should continue to show up for them, but oftentimes it's very one sided. They don't show up necessarily like that for us and it's okay. And we don't expect them to we don't expect them to, but they expect it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I'm guess, like I'm gonna, my people are the people who respect it.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Which this is going to take it to another subject. Okay, we got shut down. Oh, we haven't even talked. I know we haven't seen each other since that happened. Our Instagram got shut down and it is normal for a page like ours, for a community like ours and it happened to a couple of them Remember for us sent you that other page that it happened to. Yeah, it's, it's normal. What we talk about goes against Instagram community guidelines.

Speaker 2:

It also goes against what how society is. It's very opposite of that.

Speaker 1:

Right Because. I read the community guidelines and and it talks about like drug use and promoting drug use. And then it says in parentheses unless in the sense of sobriety, or what's the other word treatment treatment when you're a dick addiction, unless in the sense that you are talking about not just sobriety but like recovery.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Recovery, and so one of the thank you, by the way, to everybody who like submitted yes thank you. Whatever you did, I don't. I hope that that's what helped, but I also like submitted a thing like a. I'm having a very hard time with words today, like were you deny something.

Speaker 2:

Like a, like a claim.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like we had to like deny what they were saying. Oh yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2:

And I sent an email and.

Speaker 1:

I was like, listen, I've read through your community guidelines and while you may think that we're promoting drug use, we're promoting drug use in a form of recovery for people who are struggling with addictions, so we're not promoting drug use to be addicted. But the wild thing is it doesn't specify drugs, it just says drug use in general. How many pages promote alcohol? Yeah, and caffeine?

Speaker 2:

right.

Speaker 1:

And medication. Like I get ads all the time for. Like the prescription, like the her Do you ever get?

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh which, by the way, we are one of two countries who has? Big pharma like commercials and just plastered advertisements.

Speaker 1:

Don't you? Didn't you tell me what is the percentage of like commercials that are owned by big pharma? Or like oh my God isn't it like 75% or something ridiculous? Pay attention. I know we don't get a lot of commercials anymore because everybody streams, but when I watch Hulu or Peacock and there's like those every now and then, you get those ads. I can count. Let's like start paying attention to the type of ads, because they're either medication, ssris, sucking any type of medication, not just SSR, like literally medication in general or alcohol. Yep, they are very rarely, very rarely a commercial for anything else.

Speaker 2:

I always say that if there's a commercial for it, it's probably not good for you.

Speaker 1:

Damn Because it's.

Speaker 2:

it's a large pharmaceutical company or corporation and they're trying to keep you to continue to consume by that If there is a commercial. It's not good for you. Did you ever take dare Bitch? I won the dare program.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's right, you told me that. Look at now have. I remember one time in dare they they asked how many commercials have you seen for cigarettes? And nobody could answer it. But I remember being like I mean, I don't know, I see commercials for cigarettes. The answer was zero because cigarettes weren't allowed to have commercials. They could have ads. You could have ads in magazines and they do like marble ads and camel ads, but but cigarettes were not allowed to have commercials in the 90s Interesting Because it was a drug.

Speaker 2:

But think about that now, like how that's like there are so many ads and commercials for alcohol, yeah, and it's the, it's also a drug and the two like kind of worse drugs, pharmaceutical drugs and alcohol are the most clustered everywhere, why it's really promoted.

Speaker 1:

I wonder when dare got shut down. Dare got shut down, yeah, they don't have it anymore. Interesting, I feel like it was because there was a lot of misinformation and what they realized was, like kids in high school, once they smoked weed, they realized their brains didn't melt.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what do you remember. I'm gonna look this up when we're done, though Do you remember that 90s commercial where this girl is sitting on the couch and it was like this is your brain on weed and she just like melts into the, which I now I'm like hell yeah, that sounds fucking awesome.

Speaker 1:

Right, but have you seen the memes that are still like? I watched that commercial and I still did drugs, which is funny, because I sent you that reel that was like that, where I'm like, that's me If I smoke weed. That's 100% me. Like people are like, are you okay? And I'm like which in my head, I'm having a good which that's another huge difference with us.

Speaker 2:

Leah is high and she immediately fucking just goes like she doesn't exist. She, just she. I become one with the body is there, but Leah is not there, where I'm like oh my gosh, let's do this. Let's do this. I have so many ideas, let's like.

Speaker 1:

it helps me so well, that's because I feel like it's more of a medicine for you For me. It's like to shut me off and it shuts me the fuck off, because at the beginning I said we hung out with that, with that other couple when we smoked with them that night and you're so and I'm like they're never going to want to hang out with us Everybody's laughing, having a good time, and I am like just like sitting there and they're like are you okay? And I'm like in my head, I promise it's funny, I promise I'm laughing, I promise I'm having a good time, but you're like that, but I'm sitting there like this. I'm trying to laugh and I can't laugh. It's kind of funny To what I think we should.

Speaker 2:

I think we should do it again together, Because also when I'm high, I'm at my funniest, Like I have come up with all of these ideas and I'm also like I get super witty and super funny.

Speaker 1:

But you know what's interesting? And Jason was saying this that night in front of them. He was like normally, when she's high with me, she won't shut up.

Speaker 2:

That's maybe because you feel safe and comfortable and you're not paranoid?

Speaker 1:

I think so too, so maybe I talk nonstop because it's just the two of us.

Speaker 2:

The only time that we've gotten high together is when we had, we're working and had a meeting, oh yeah, so maybe we need to do it where we're just hanging out, maybe Shooting the shoot. I'm scared. Why would you be scared? I don't know. I mean, I'll just fucking roast you and you'll just sit there.

Speaker 1:

In my head. It's funny.

Speaker 2:

I'm laughing and I'm also insulting you, right back.

Speaker 1:

Do we need to do this on camera?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Do it live 100% live.

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, why not?

Speaker 1:

We don't have to do a podcast live. We should do a Riverside live.

Speaker 2:

We should do it live. We should do an episode.

Speaker 1:

That would be hilarious. It would either be hilarious or it would be the worst podcast episode of all time aka the best. Oh my. God We'll do that, we'll do that. Yeah, I am not good, hi, sometimes.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna roast the fucking.

Speaker 1:

And then what were we talking about? The other day?

Speaker 2:

We were like, you know, we don't really drink anymore, and I was like we kind of wanted to get drunk together One last time.

Speaker 1:

Just like we're like a drugie, like looking for that last.

Speaker 2:

But why do we keep saying that?

Speaker 1:

Because I was a super fun drunk. Same I was. I was the queen of one liners, I was so happy and fun, loving and danced on bars and the problem is I blacked out.

Speaker 2:

Same.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I'm also like the best until about 10. Probably 10, 11 o'clock Cause at that time. Then I'm starting to get to tier, to the point where I'm gonna projectile vomit. So it's like I'm good until I'm not, but then I don't fight it. People are just like this bitch needs to go home and I just go home and lay down.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I would. They would always like put me up in the DJ booth to pass out for the night, but also worked at bars, so it wasn't like unsafe, Like they'd be like.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Ali is up there with Sykes in the DJ booth passed out on the floor, Literally just laying on the floor.

Speaker 1:

Literally, I would literally have spots that I would pass out in. Oh my, God 21st birthday passed out in a booth at the bar. Everybody knew I was there and everybody just kept drinking around me. This is where I get angry, though, cause I'm like and no one thought to take me home, yeah, no like y'all just kept partying, did you? Get sick. I would always get sick the next day. See, I always got sick the night of. I would never throw up or get sick the night of, it was always the next morning.

Speaker 2:

And I could never like you know how people like puke and then rally. Oh God, no, I puke and then puke and then puke and then puke. It wasn't puke and rally, no, it was just puke and somebody take her home, because she literally can't say her own name, was it?

Speaker 1:

it was you who told me who sent me that TikTok. That was like if you black out when you drink, you're overdosing on alcohol.

Speaker 2:

And if you black out easily, get checked for CPTSD, yes, which we both have.

Speaker 1:

We're some fucked up bitches.

Speaker 2:

Aren't we all, I mean good ol', good ol' childhood trauma you?

Speaker 1:

know it made us who we are today. Don't say stronger no, I wasn't gonna say stronger.

Speaker 2:

I hate when people say that it made us.

Speaker 1:

It put us where we are today. Yes, and I you're right, though, like.

Speaker 2:

PTSD. The healing made us stronger, didn't make us stronger.

Speaker 1:

We made ourselves stronger, because I know a lot of people who stay stuck in that and aren't good people and they're not strong. They're weak as fuck and I don't mean that in a mean, mean way. I'm talking about like the narcissist and the abusers, because they are also victims of trauma. They're just perpetuating it and repeating the cycle. They're not strong. They could be, but they choose not to be.

Speaker 2:

No. So I'm not saying that in a mean way, and you know, and I always think about you know this with family or, let's say, my dad or things like that, my dad was abused and I'm sure his dad was abused.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And his dad, and his dad.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I don't know what's going on. Well, I mean, it's like I think, like from what I know about your dad and from what you've told me and from what you have heard about him, like people would probably view him as a very strong man.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he was like adored.

Speaker 1:

And what did he do to that fucking shark? He, can you say that? Have we talked? Okay? Have we said that? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, born in the Marshall Islands, my dad was a spearfisher, free diver. He was literally they call them the man of the sea. Like Marshallese people had maps and to me and to every Caucasian out there probably, they just look like popsicle sticks in these weird shapes. They use those as maps. So think of, like the movie Moana, how her people were wayfinders. So are ours. Wow, it's the same thing. They also had the same tale, like how they had the tale of why can I think of Maui?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We have that same tale of yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like the story, like the fable.

Speaker 2:

Yep, we have the same kind of story Interesting, so anyways he was, I think, fishing with a net and this shark I think it was a hammerhead or a bull shark and those are aggressive and the shark kept trying to eat his fish. So my dad literally just took his spear and poked it like get the hell out of the way, mother tricker, or whatever I don't know. He, mother tricker, and the shark came and bit him on the butt and like took a chunk out. Like to the point, where he had to get hospitalized for it. So like he, what, this is where I get the, this is where I get the feral energy from, oh shit. And so he literally went to the hospital, got hospitalized for a few days. But before he went to the hospital he marked the shark like bitch, like I'm coming for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You started and I'm gonna fucking end. It Gets out of the hospital, goes right back into the water, searches for the shark, finds the shark and then fucking kills it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know where you get it Me, either I don't know where you get it Me, either the feisty, fiery blood Me, either I know so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, he. So yeah, very strong man, very, but people idolized him yeah. Which sure he had some amazing skill sets, but as a dad, not what I needed at all, but he was just a very hurt individual that had a lot of bad things happen to him. Yeah, so that's all we mean by the trauma. Made us stronger, I mean it didn't make us stronger.

Speaker 1:

We did that, yes, cause trauma can make a lot of people not strong, damaged, damaged. So I mean it made a lot of people not strong.

Speaker 2:

Very damaged, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, and because he didn't, he was strong, but he was very damaged. Yeah, very, very damaged, wow yeah.

Speaker 1:

Damn sorry. So do you want to hear something funny? Yeah, Listen to this on a light note, please.

Speaker 2:

Whenever Didn't mean to take it that deep. So I have, like this connection with the water. I have always had this connection with water.

Speaker 1:

You're like real life.

Speaker 2:

Moana, straight up, like we've talked about this. When we go to the beach, you are that girl who's like scared to go in the water, and I'm the girl who's like gonna put on goggles and like search for seashells, and like my hairstylist has always tells me like be careful getting your hair wet. And I'm like Yellow, fuck it. I can't, like, I can't not get in the water, I can't do it. But anyways, whenever I can, oh, I put my ring on my right hand, because that is my stronger, most dominant hand, because if I run into a shark, I watched LL Cool J Deep Blue Sea and he gets attacked by a shark and he has a cross necklace and he takes that cross necklace, rips it off and starts stabbing the shark in the eye while he's like legs are in the shark's mouth. So I was like so I'm always. It's a scary movie. Yeah, deep Blue Sea, you have to watch it. It's like a cult classic 90s but it's not. It's like it's why I won't get in the water, but it's like funny scary because they it's like they're treating, they're they find this treatment for Alzheimer's Okay and they use sharks to experiment with it. These scientists do, and LL Cool J is just the, the, the cool chef, okay, and on this like out in the middle of the water, okay, and what they find out is it makes the sharks abnormally smart. So then these sharks like learn how to like take this facility down and like sink it, cause it's out in the middle of the ocean. And then they know how to like kill all these people. It's like like it's a scary movie where I'm like it's funny, okay, cause it's not like it's, it's so you're not making me want to go in the water.

Speaker 1:

True, I'm just true. True, but that wasn't going to happen anyway.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's, and it's very like far fetched.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So, and he has like this parrot, and like him and this parrot are like this dynamic duo. But then the shark eats his parrot. So then he gets eaten by the shark. His legs are in the shark's mouth and he takes his cross necklace and he starts stabbing it and he's like you ate my bird, but anyways. So I wear my right hand, because if a shark wants to start something, you're going to finish it. I'm going to fucking finish it. Wow, I'm going to beat the shit out of that shark. Just hopefully they don't bite my right hand off.

Speaker 1:

Cause. If that happens, you're dying these.

Speaker 2:

I'm just done. I'm just, that was my good hands. I'm just done. But the other reason why you have to watch this movie is because LL Cool J has this music video, okay, okay, and he is literally wearing a shark fin hat and it's the most cringy but it's the most hilarious music video because the actual lyrics are just deepest bluest. My hat is like a shark fin, that's. That's like.

Speaker 1:

So it's like a parody.

Speaker 2:

It's, he wasn't being funny, but like as a nineties movie it's the funniest movie, cause it's just it's. It's funny and it's bad, and then Sam Samuel L Jackson is in it, and Samuel L Jackson and anything is just funny.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, that's my homework.

Speaker 2:

What a random conversation.

Speaker 1:

This has been all of it. All of it, that part or all of it, you guys we were going to do something completely different.

Speaker 2:

We had a book, we had notes and we just veered way off of that.

Speaker 1:

Once we started, we, we just are you high?

Speaker 2:

Not at all, it's just my ADHD.

Speaker 1:

Let's let that shine a little bit. This is honestly like us just being us Right. It really is 100% Like we have been talking about, like doing a shoot the shit episode for how long and? We've never done it because we're like what do we talk about this? I?

Speaker 2:

think we need to do another. I think the next time we do a, shoot the shit. We need to be high. I won't talk.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I can't do it. I know you think it will be funny. I will literally. Well, what if?

Speaker 2:

we do it.

Speaker 1:

If you don't, especially if it's live and people are watching, I will be like if you don't talk, we'll scrap it. But it could be just I don't know what if we're just high on mushrooms, that could be, I could do that.

Speaker 2:

What if you did mushrooms and I did cannabis? Okay, but you're probably going to be like so, like introspective. No, I'm not Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, we did it. I did it on New Year's Eve and it was just funny, okay, and fun the whole time Okay. Well, that to me is like my weed.

Speaker 2:

Okay, listen, I love some mushrooms too, but I like we talked about this earlier Like I love a micro dose or a little bit larger than a micro dose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that, that's my happy, that's your happy medium. Yeah, okay, how do we close this out? I don't even know what to say about this episode.

Speaker 2:

Deep blue sea Watch it.

Speaker 1:

And thank you for shooting the shit with us. You guys Like our ratings just went real, Maybe not.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We're fucking weirdos and we're fucking random. We will talk about what we wanted to talk about. That'll just be the next one, so we'll get back on track. We really just haven't seen each other in a couple weeks and needed to do a little catch up so to all of our listeners. I kind of wanted to like I was thinking about this the other day like creating a new like exit tagline, because I'm always, it's always something different.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, we always say see you on the other side. What the hell do you want me to?

Speaker 1:

Well, I've been like adding like stay curious and see you on the other side. I like that, but I kind of want to add something else to it, Like stay curious, be no, it can just be that whatever.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we'll think.

Speaker 1:

Stay curious, we'll see you guys on the other side.

Speaker 2:

That was the most random thing.

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